Can you hear me now?

I read an interesting thread in our Forum about whether bus drivers should be allowed to yell at their passengers. Most of the respondents believe it's OK, and often necessary, to yell at students. Others said department policies prohibited them from doing so.

As the father of two boys, ages 6 and 8, I can assure you that I occasionally have to, uh, speak loudly to get their attention. They get so involved in what they're doing that they don't otherwise hear me. It's only rarely that I yell in real anger, although that can serve a purpose, too.

I would be much less inclined, however, to yell at other people's children. In some ways, however, school bus drivers eventually begin to regard their passengers as more than "other people's children." They develop a familiarity that reduces the distance between them and, perhaps, creates a situation where yelling seems appropriate.

Once I've gotten my kids' attention, silence seems to work as well as volume. Letting them know that I'm angry about or disappointed in their behavior is sometimes enough. Continued yelling seems like an overreaction.

But everyone has their own personality and style. For some people, loud outbursts are common and seem to be a natural extension of their personality. For others, calm, measured communication is the norm.

If you have a few minutes, read the thread in our Forum and see what you think.

Until next time.

Steve

 

Print | posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 3:51 PM

Comments

 re: Can you hear me now?

left by Vicki at 6/1/2007 2:49 AM
May I say, as a bus driver I can understand how some parents feel about their bus driver raising their voices to get the attention of children on the bus. But I have to say from experience there are times that you have to just to get the children's attention. This being they are so loud that it is distracting and dangerous for the driver to concentrate on driving. Children have to be reminded at times that they need to use their "inside" voice, we are in the school bus not out on the playground.

 re: Can you hear me now?

left by Valerie Meyer at 6/1/2007 5:30 AM
Yelling is not effective for our students at the Texas School for the Deaf. Our drivers are encouraged to flash the interior lights to get the students attention.
I used this method with hearing students for years prior to coming to TSD and found it very effective and less stressful for everyone involved.

 re: Can you hear me now?

left by babs the bus driver at 6/1/2007 3:37 PM
I have tried the flashing lights trick, and it isn't always effective. If I am sitting still I use my hands like a megaphone and bounce the sound off the interior mirror. Usually don't have to yell, but loud gets their attention. If I am driving I just slow down and if in a safe area I pullover and stop. They get quiet then. I would be more concerned what the drivers are yelling, rather than the fact that they yell.

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left by Charlotte at 6/1/2007 5:36 PM
After reading some of the forum responses it seems to me that this is a training issue. Continually having to yell at your students indicates an ongoing problem that needs to be addressed. I will yell if safety is at issue irregardless of policy. I have attended many great workshops over the years that have taught me how to manage my bus effectively without having to yell. In turn I share what I have learned with new drivers. In addition the administration at my schools is willing to back me up if I have a problem that I can't resolve on my own.

 re: Can you hear me now?

left by Geoff Bridgman at 6/3/2007 12:25 PM
As a new bus driver with only one year behind me, I consider the 06-07 school year largely as a learning experience. Overall I have good communication with my kids and seldom have to yell. There have been only three occasions all year that I have lost my temper a bit and yelled. Twice it was with the same student who has continually given me problems and once it was at the bus in general. The one problem student, since the last tongue lashing, has completely changed her behavior and is now no longer a problem. In the other two cases, some students were suspended from the bus permanently. I don't like yelling at the kids. While I feel it got results on the few occasions I did so, I have come to believe situations can be handled in a better way. I would suggest any driver try not to lose their temper, but deal with the students in a firm, authoritative manner, when needed, but do not "lose it." On the few occasions I have yelled at a student or the bus in general, even though it helped resolve the problem, I've felt badly about it later and decided there's a better way to deal with behavioral problems. Needless to say, I no longer yell at my kids!

 re: Can you hear me now?

left by Brian Whitta at 6/4/2007 12:34 PM
I have to say I think every bus driver has had an "out of body experience" in situations where control of the bus has been lost. I would not advocate for outright yelling, but I can think back to days when I drove full time... spring weather, a healthy dose of sugar at lunch and counting down days until school was in recess for summer break. Well, you do the math.

It is EASY to yell. It is much more difficult to turn the tables on a student who is being disruptive: "Your actions are causing the whole bus to be late getting home... we can't move until you choose to follow the rules." Some drivers will tell you that doesn't work, (and I'm the first to tell you there is always a group of students somewhere who are so unruly that an act of the almighty himself wouldn't impact them), but it's often a better alternative to losing your cool.

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