The worried parent in all of us

Both of my sons, ages 6 and 8, are back in school. Neither ride the bus. We live outside the neighborhood school zone and thus don't qualify for school bus service. That means, of course, that my wife must drive them to and from school each day, a distance of about 3 miles.

I know this is not the safest way to get them to and from school, but we don't have much choice. I sometimes wonder what it would be like if they did ride the bus. Would I go out and size up the driver? Would I complain if the bus is late (or early) or if the driver doesn't practice the accepted safety precautions during the loading/unloading process? That is, would I behave like a typical parent or one who is involved in the industry?

I would hope that I would take advantage of my accumulated knowledge to ensure that my sons' transportation was safe and efficient. And nothing more. For example, I can't imagine introducing myself to the driver like this: "Hi, I'm Steve Hirano, editor of SCHOOL BUS FLEET Magazine. Did you conscientiously perform your pre-trip inspection this morning and have you had any preventable accidents in the past six months?"

But it's hard to find detachment when you read almost daily about children being left on the bus. Or you hear about bullying incidents. Or you hear about buses catching fire. While I know that school buses are the safest form of surface transportation, I would still worry.

My question is this: For those of you who have children who ride (or rode) the bus, are you able to divorce yourself from your insider's understanding of school transportation? That is, do you let the driver know that you're also involved in school transportation? (Or maybe they already know, if you work for the same district or contractor.) And have you used your experience to get involved in a situation where a less-knowledgeable parent might not have?

I'm curious to hear your answers.

Until next time.

Steve 

  

Print | posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 12:33 PM

Comments

 re: The worried parent in all of us

left by Dawn at 9/11/2007 1:22 PM
My children go to school in the same district that I work so most of the time they are on the bus with me. But, I do have step-children riding the bus in a different district and have told my husband to put his foot down with the district when the driver drops his children off a half mile from home because she didn't "feel" like driving down that road that day. Or that the driver can not drop his daughter off at another stop without prior approval from a parent.
Also many friends have called and asked for advice on busing incidents with their children.

 re: The worried parent in all of us

left by John O'Connor at 9/11/2007 1:30 PM
My twins began kindergarten in 1991. At the time, I was the Transportation Supervisor in a neighboring district, and had previously worked in the school district where I lived and where my kids were starting school. On the first day of school, both of my kids gave the bus driver one of my business cards and said "Daddy said 'be careful'".

 re: The worried parent in all of us

left by Gregg Peterson at 9/11/2007 1:32 PM
Steve:

Several years ago, when I was Vice President of Fleet Services for Durham School Services in Austin, Texas, our four kids rode the bus to school at different times. I had twin boys that rode the bus in the early 90's and also rode the bus when they participated in soccer in school. During that time, they never once complained and I don't think I ever worried about their saftey. Then in the late 90's I had two daughters riding the bus. They did complain about the driver going too fast over bumps, etc. During that time I did go out on a couple occaisions and observe the bus as it went down our street. But I never questioned the driver. I had talked to the transportation director at several functions during that time and had a lot of respect for him, so I really trusted the transporation department.

Gregg Peterson
General Manager
Thomas Bus Gulf Coast
Houston, Texas

 re: The worried parent in all of us

left by Nancy Schulz at 9/11/2007 1:49 PM
I drove my own children and now I don't have to say anything because my grandchildren tell their driver who their Grandma is.

 re: The worried parent in all of us

left by Sam at 9/11/2007 1:50 PM
All three of my grandchildren ride our school buses. My drivers know who my grandchildren are. I know we run a tight ship and am confident that they will get a safe and responsible ride. In fact I have told my drivers to not favor them in any way. You always worry to some degree but I know they are in very safe hands.

# re: The worried parent in all of us

left by Kari Kounkel at 9/11/2007 2:01 PM
I grew up in close proximity to my parent's school bus company. My current job with the company involves overseeing our training program, student discipline, and customer service. Tragically, our company experienced a catastrophic accident in 1997 when a gravel truck ran a stop sign. The impact of that accident stretched far beyond my role in the school bus industry in ways that someone who has not had the experience cannot comprehend. My trust in the yellow bus has never been compromised.

My boys, ironically enough, had daycare in the walking area while in elementary school. They did not start riding the bus until they reached Middle School. My biggest concern had nothing to do with the motor vehicle or the bus driver. My concern was middle school student behavior on the bus. I quickly discovered that my boys enjoyed the friendships and social aspect of their ride. One of them had trouble with a "bully" but it was quickly resolved.

In two months, my eldest son will take his driving test, and be free to experience his first real independence. Now THAT'S frightening!

 re: The worried parent in all of us

left by Rodney Waugh at 9/11/2007 2:07 PM
I sell school buses and when my children attended public school, our company also was a bus contractor who serviced the route that my children rode. The most common complaints were that the bus driver was mean to certain children, that the bus smelled strong of cigarettes and that they would sometimes witness bulling of other children. I made it a point of introducing myself to the driver(s)
and letting them know what I did amd where I worked. I used a lot of restraint before calling and complaining about any particular incident, until my children had all the facts.
I did not divorce myself but complained only when I had all the facts. At lot of times it was hard not to call and complain. I usually asked my kids if they really wanted me to get involved. A lot of times they would tell me no, they didn't want to be the tattle tale.
If it was a safety issue such as not stopping at the RR tracks or running a stop sign, I would call right then and there.

 re: The worried parent in all of us

left by Sherry Perry at 9/11/2007 2:09 PM
Steve you as a parent have every right to ask these questions. As a former bus driver I'd been proud to answer all your questions truthfuly. My grandson now rides a bus from my formed district and I was concerned about who would be his driver. Once I learned who that was I was at peace. Any parent should ask questions and inquire about the safety record of any Bus Driver.If the Driver has a good driving record and the kids on the bus are happy then he/she would not have any problem with these inquiries

 re: The worried parent in all of us

left by Yellow Dog Driver at 9/11/2007 3:12 PM
I thought(ASSUMED) you lived in Torrance, CA and the minimum bus distance was 3 miles. Please explain this neighborhood zone, or are you sending your kids to a private school? I am a driver so I do not say anything to the driver of my children because my kids ride should be just like any other student. I let my wife reach the limit and she complains through the proper channels. If management asks me a question I respond with "Your problem is with MRS Yellow Dog Driver" I also know that Central Bucks Drivers are the best!!!

 re: The worried parent in all of us

left by Anne Obrey at 9/11/2007 3:31 PM
I am a School Bus Driver Instructor in California. When pupils are aboard the bus and the bus driver is out of the driver's seat, the keys are to remain in the driver's possession.
I chaperoned on a field trip that my daughter took. I did not introduce myself, nor make any comment to the driver. When we returned to the school the driver had gotten off the bus before the student so as to unload the ice chest, and he lef the keys in the ignition. As I was getting off the bus I quietly grabbed the keys and then handed them to the driver and said, "Did you forget something?", and then walked off.
I have to say it is hard not to drill a driver who is going to be transporting MY kids. But I don't think that my kids should be treated any different that all of the other students that we transport day in and day out. As they have always done, drivers need to drive as if they are transporting the most precious people in the world. Thank you drivers for doing your job and getting these kids to and from school and school activities as safetly as you have always done.

 re: The worried parent in all of us

left by Babs at 9/11/2007 3:35 PM
My son always rode the bus with me when he was school age. I was most concerned when he went on a school trip, they had chartered a bus for that trip. He came back with all kinds of horror stories about the driver. The teacher that sponsored the trip did write a letter to the charter company complaining about the driver they had.
I am currently an assistant manager for the bus lot contracted to the school district,I also drive a route. Before I got the asst. managers job and heard other parents with bus concerns I always encouraged them to call the bus lot. If we don't know there is a problem we can't fix it or make it better. There is always the drivers side of an issue and there is the student/parent side, then somewhere in the middle is the truth.

 re: The worried parent in all of us

left by Norman Mars at 9/11/2007 4:36 PM
As a long time veteran of our industry, and as the father of 8 and grandfather of 9 (so far), my kids and grandkids have ridden and do ride the school bus. My biggest problem was my kids telling their drivers who their dad was and thinking they could get away with things other kids couldn't because "my dad's the boss." I always supported the drivers. In fact, I transferred one of my daughters from a route that was driven by a driver who was very hesitant to correct my her behavior to the route of another driver who treated ALL of her passengers fairly, firmly, and consistenly, no matter WHO their parents happened to be. I expected my kids to set the example, not be the problem. Yes, unfortunately there are occassionally accidents and incidents we in our industry are not proud of, but we still provide the safest transportation on this planet, and that's why I feel much better when my youngest (late in life) son and my grandkids are on a school bus.

 re: The worried parent in all of us

left by Michele at 9/11/2007 7:40 PM
I was my daughter's driver when she went to the Career and Tech Center (Vo-Tech) for two years. I made sure all the young gentlemen on the bus know that they needed to mind their manners. My girl could hold her own and one time flattened a boy who was giving her grief. Not wanting to show any favoritism I wrote her up. "You wrote up your own daughter?" was the incredulous question from all the kids when they found out about it. I said I wasn't going to let her get away with misbehavior any more than any of the rest of them. But since the principal knew me he never even called her into the office for her infraction. The kids behaved so much better after that for some reason...

 re: The worried parent in all of us

left by Bob Cushing at 9/12/2007 7:07 AM
Steve,
I was somewhat of a concerned parent as well,when my first child, my son 3 years ago had to board the bus. In perspective I put my trust in the school district which is in a different geograpical zone than I work. The laws and requirements to be a bus driver and even any school employee are very stringent. So the side I see comes with insider's knowledge. I'm a Senior Supervisor Driver at a school district. I still had to be at work for our school's first day as well.
Therefore the (worry) part was a lot less stressful for that first day for me and my son who was well versed before then by me. You hear all the stories, but I believe people in general, in the school transportation industry are held to high standards. Everything has faults, even air travel. School transportation today is safer than ever, but never 100 % like many others. With the inside (scoop) I know as a parent it never hurts to ask information either. The more at ease your are the safer for all. But the detachment part no matter who you are or what the circumstances will never change. The fact is the parent will still worry about their flock, this instinct will always and forever be. Trusting is part of the cycle.
Bob Cushing Senior Driver East Greenbush Ny

 re: The worried parent in all of us

left by Loretta at 9/12/2007 8:17 AM
I drive for a different district than my children go to and I do feel that they are safe on the bus. I know that their bus driver went through the same training as I did and that they would not be a bus driver if they didn't love working with the kids and have their safety in mind. I have had issues with their school district having school on days when the school district I work for has delayed or cancelled due to poor weather conditions. Our school district bumps up against the one I work for. I know their driver will be extra cautious on those days.

 re: The worried parent in all of us

left by Sheryl Ehrlich at 9/12/2007 9:54 AM
Before I became a driver for the district I live in, I made a point of getting to know the bus driver. I stood every morning at the end of our driveway with my daughter and put her on the bus myself. I never felt uneasy about her driver. In time we became friends, and she recruited me to become one of them. Now 11 years later, I make a point of getting to know as many of my parents as possible, and answering all of their questions

 re: The worried parent in all of us

left by Melisa Sheppard at 9/12/2007 6:01 PM
I am a 15 year driver and I do worry about my granddaughter who rides a different bus but my worries are about what's out on the road, not the driver. I'm not really sure how many parents are worried about their kids on the bus. I've been driving the same route for over 10 years and have had kids from 6th to 12th grade (even a couple more years from being held back) and have never seen or met a parent! Very sad that parents don't take the time to at least know who is taking their kids to school. Just one morning or afternoon would be all it would take. Parent involvement would also solve many discipline issues quickly if the kids knew we'd be in contact from time to time.

# re: The worried parent in all of us

left by Charlotte Grabowski at 9/16/2007 4:24 AM
I don't worry at all about my grand-children's bus rides. Two attend school in my district and two go to a neighboring district. Both of the other drivers are professionals that I respect.

 re: The worried parent in all of us

left by Lynette at 9/21/2007 7:17 AM
My kids rode with me when they were little even though it meant leaving the house earlier, getting home later and putting up with kids who picked on them because they "were the bus drivers kids". My bus was the only one with a video camera and the area I picked up in had the most problems with discipline. But they made it and can tell the tales. They will also tell that their Mom was the most strick on bus rules and they applied to everyone. Having driven for 13 yrs and knowing what it takes to be a good bus driver, it really saddens me to know that someones kids are on a bus driven by a driver who cannot pass a physical, had a driver without current drivers license, had a driver with his arm in a cast, had a driver who didn't attend safety meetings or any of the other things that my school district has fallen to in the last few years. I am so glad my kids are not in school any longer. This same statement has been said to me numerous times. To have a teacher say in public " I don't want some Cyclops driving my grandchildren." and have parents call the school to see who is driving their kids activity bus before they take them to school and then have NO ONE do anything to put a stop to it is ridiculous. There needs to be Nation Wide Regulations and accountability to the schools in the form of withholding state funds. Someday the big one will happen and it will make National news. How can so many people lack commonsense?

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