Don't even go there



For those involved in pupil transportation, illegal passing of school buses is a persistent and dangerous scourge. 


In the 2007-08 school year, the latest for which statistics were available, four children in the U.S. were killed by vehicles passing their bus.


A 2008 pilot program in New York, in which a school bus was equipped with a license plate reader to record stop-arm violations, led officials to estimate that there are close to 80,000 such violations per day in the state.


Without sophisticated equipment like the reader used in that pilot program, it can be a difficult task for school bus drivers to try to take down information on vehicles that illegally pass their buses. And it’s even more frustrating when motorists get away with it.


So what do you do when the vehicle that illegally drives by a school bus is … another school bus?


In early January, Ontario Provincial Police announced that it had investigated a report of a school bus failing to stop for another school bus.


Shortly after 8 a.m. on Jan. 5, one of those buses was stopped with its red lights activated and stop arm extended, preparing to pick up schoolchildren on a highway near Powassan, Ontario. Then the other bus approached from behind and allegedly proceeded to pass.


As a result of the police investigation, the driver of the second bus was charged with failing to stop for a school bus. The police didn’t specify what penalties the bus driver in this case was hit with, but stop-arm violators in the province can face fines of up to $2,000 and six demerit points.


As shocking as this incident is, it also raises a pertinent question: In addition to any penalties from law enforcement, how should a school bus operation punish one of its drivers who illegally passes another school bus?


I suspect that this is a rare kind of occurrence, but is it something that still needs to be addressed when training new drivers? More generally, this story led me to contemplate what types of transgressions, if any, should be grounds for immediate termination. 


Several years ago, when I wrote a feature on preventing child-left-on-bus incidents, some transportation directors told me that they have a zero-tolerance policy on that subject: Any school bus driver who leaves a passenger stranded on the bus will be fired, even if it’s his or her first such incident.


But some directors said they assess the punishment on a case-by-case basis. It may depend on the driver’s record and years of service, how long the child was left unattended or other circumstances. 


Given the degree of danger that comes with passing a school bus while it’s loading or unloading children, I would expect it to be an unpardonable offense for a school bus driver. But I’m more interested to hear your perspective.


Tell us about the policies at your operation — what the response would be to a bus-passing-bus incident, and what automatically leads to dismissal. Post a comment below, or send an e-mail to thomas.mcmahon@bobit.com.


— Thomas McMahon, Executive Editor    
Print | posted on Monday, February 08, 2010 3:26 PM

Comments

 re: Don't even go there

left by Buslady 7803 at 2/8/2010 4:25 PM
Wow, my first reaction was "What in the world was this driver thinking?"
In my opinion there is no excuse for a bus to pass a bus with lights on. That's just..a no brainer to stop. Someone didn't pay attention to the rules & regs in training.

At the minimum I think a driver should be suspended, if it's repeated, sacked.

We're a small company (4 drivers,4 buses) so we don't have this problem. We're pretty much on top of things.

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left by diesel3446 at 2/8/2010 5:45 PM
I am curious if LED strobe lights helped reduce buses being passed.

Due to a child being killed in N C this year, I was thinking of the possibility of using an active device to signal other drivers that a
child is crossing the road.
A device similar to the party favor, a roll out noise maker.
It would extend from the bus on the street
side into the adjacent lane.
Made of a light plastic it would not harm a passing vehicle and could have a message notifying drivers that a child is crossing the road.

 re: Don't even go there

left by Samatha at 2/8/2010 5:49 PM
Indeed,what,if anything, was this driver thinking? This driver could have killed a student easily. I say Dismissal without prejudice*. At once. Period.




*meaning criminal charges could also be filed.

 re: Don't even go there

left by Samatha at 2/8/2010 5:54 PM
I LIKE the party favor idea. Have the roll out tube coated with a rub-off paint or dye that would mark any vehicle touching it,so denial could be refuted with absolute proof!
These could be very inexpensive to make.(what is YOUR child worth?)

 re: Don't even go there

left by Kenny at 2/8/2010 6:30 PM
The bus driver should be fired ASAP!

 re: Don't even go there

left by Trish at 2/9/2010 4:01 AM
I can tell you, if one of our drivers passed a stopped school bus with it's lights on and stop arm extended, they would be fired and charges would be filed upon them personally, that way the incident would follow them if they went to drive somewhere else.

 re: Don't even go there

left by Theresa Daniel at 2/9/2010 4:08 AM
First, all local and county traffic laws apply to a school bus operator just the same as any private motorist. The driver should receive a traffic citation, fine and points on his/her license, just like anybody else. My personal opinion: I feel it should be zero tolerance under any circumstances with immediate dismissal. Passing a school bus loading or unloading is instilled in everyone starting with their first driver license exam and their first driving experience. It should come as second nature to a school bus operator.

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left by John from RI at 2/9/2010 5:57 AM
A school bus going through another buses reds on the road = immediate termination. Leaving a child on a bus = immediate termination. Speeding or committing a moving violation with children on the bus = immediate termination (no children on the bus = case-by-case)

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left by Teresa at 2/9/2010 8:10 AM
I think this happens more often than anyone realizes and is sometimes swept under the rug. I personally think there should be a no tolerance policy and the driver immediately fired.

 re: Don't even go there

left by Colin at 2/9/2010 12:21 PM
Sure! Let's add another device to a school bus, something else to break, or just not work.
It's a big yellow bus, it has flashing red lights, a stop arm with flashing red lights, and in some cases a really annoying white strobe light stuck right on the back of the bus just to annoy anyone following. Trust me... the same idiot that passes a school bus in it's current configuration will be just as stupid as to pass one with a silly party favor stuck to it!
Bigger fines, better policing, and yes, terminate any other bus driver that does not abide by the law.
But please... no more gadgets!

 re: Don't even go there

left by Karen at 2/9/2010 1:32 PM
A key skill requirement for School Bus Drivers is "common sense". Yet, I am concerned about the quality of training this driver received.

 re: Don't even go there

left by Dana fairchild at 2/10/2010 9:46 AM
so lets place a camera on the buses to take pictures every time a vehicle passes, all of them
It is very hard to get all the information down some times

 re: Don't even go there

left by Shirley at 2/11/2010 9:32 AM

What if this were your child and the bus hit them. I think o toleronce here, school bus drivers are professionals drivers.The law is the law for everyone. Remember we are talking about someone's child. God loves the little children. Please be safe and let others see you doing the right thing.

Sincerely,
Shirley

 re: Don't even go there

left by ROSALIE at 3/3/2010 5:59 AM
Wow our company is small so i hope we never run into this problem. Just in case we do i am going to bring it up for a policy to be made.
I am going to recomend first offence a 3 day suspension no pay, second offence Termination.And zero tollerance for leaving child on bus.

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