Thoughts on transit replacing yellow buses

In recent months, we at SBF have come across news of school districts implementing a transit bus service program for some of their students. The reasons vary, but it has usually been due to cuts in school bus service or in an effort to save money.

Ron Kinney, state legislation monitor for the National School Transportation Association, a consultant, and former state director of school transportation for California, says he believes that when a district replaces school buses with public transit, it discredits the years of work that the school transportation community has invested in making the yellow bus the safest mode of home-to-school transportation for students. 

He says he also believes that many district transportation personnel are not making the final decision to implement the transit service, and that they would prefer that students ride yellow buses.

“It goes back to competition for money — the classroom versus the school bus — and the classroom is winning out in this argument,” Kinney says. 

I think that’s a fair assessment.

In Ohio, approximately 2% of the state’s upper-grade-level students who live in major urban areas ride public transit vehicles, according to former state director of pupil transportation Pete Japikse, who is set to begin a new role with the Ohio School Boards Association.

Japikse says the availability of transit routes in Ohio’s major cities at a subsidized cost is “far more practical” than for schools to operate buses for those students. 

“While this is a major issue for the private contractor operations nationwide, the high level view is that some students will not make it to school without transportation,” he says. “When a school bus is not available due to economic limitations, the use of a public transit vehicle does indeed provide access to education.”

However, Japikse adds that he would prefer to see all of Ohio’s students riding school buses.

The potential for problems 
Beyond the fact that transit buses don’t feature the compartmentalized design of school buses, Japikse, Kinney and Bob Riley, executive director of the National Association of State Directors of Pupil Transportation Services, have other concerns with students riding transit buses, including the following:

Accident reporting data aren’t as specific. Kinney says that the data don’t include whether the individuals involved were children or adults — they are classified as “passengers.” “It’s not as strict, so things could be happening on transit buses that we may not even know about,” he says.

Young children are exposed to the general public. “You have no control over who rides the bus, so you could have a higher degree of crime on those buses,” Riley says.

Students may get lost. Japikse notes that transit drivers are required to operate fixed routes to comply with Federal Transit Administration standards. Riley says that as a result, you may have students dropped off blocks from school, with the potential to get lost, or older students may forgo going to school altogether by getting off at a different bus stop.

Industry-wide impact. Kinney and Riley say that transit bus service affects all aspects of the pupil transportation industry, from fewer buses being sold to job loss.

One district’s experience partnering with a transit service  
In Canada, a pupil transportation operation in Red Deer, Alberta, has had a successful relationship with the local transit system, Red Deer City Transit.

Scott Partridge, transportation manager for Red Deer Public School District No. 104, says that students in middle school and high school have been riding city transit buses for years. The district subsidizes the cost of a restricted bus pass for students, which is valid Monday through Friday from 6:15 a.m. until 5:15 p.m., and only on school days — not on holidays.

The school district has been connected with Red Deer City Transit since the transit service began in 1966, according to Partridge, and as student transportation and city transit service needs evolved, adjustments were made.

“Initially the city (transit department) provided a charter (yellow bus) transportation system under contract to the school district until the mid-1970s,” Partridge says. “In the 80s, a decision was made for city transit to get out of the charter business, and students utilized regular transit service on regular transit routes from that time on.”

Partridge also says that Red Deer Public School District No. 104 did not want elementary students riding on regular transit buses, so a contracted yellow school bus provider offered service for elementary students while middle and high school students continued to access city transit services.

In the 90s, Red Deer City Transit began providing dedicated, direct destination routes for middle and high school students through use of subsidized city transit passes or paid fare. In 2003, the city and school district entered into a formal agreement on providing transit services, transitioning into what has become “student overload transit routes,” according to Partridge. Overload routes meet the morning bell times as well as the end-of-day dismissal times for middle and high school.

“It is fair to say that the city transit system relies heavily on student transportation in a significant way, and it provides safe and cost-effective student transportation for the school district,” Partridge says. “It is a mutually beneficial arrangement overall — use of the city transit system also provides students with access to transit service outside of the overload schedule times or dedicated routes, increasing flexibility and appeal for all concerned.”

What are your thoughts? Do you have a different view on transit bus use? Post a comment below or send an e-mail to info@schoolbusfleet.com.

Until next time,

Kelly Roher
Managing Editor
Print | posted on Friday, October 12, 2012 9:52 AM

Comments

# re: Thoughts on transit replacing yellow buses

left by Ted Finlayson-Schueler at 10/15/2012 8:53 AM
Transit bus transportation has certainly not operated under the same microscope as school bus transportation as far as student safety is concerned. I served, along with Ron Kinney who is quoted in the blog, on the Transportation Research Board’s Study Committee that created the report, “The Relative Risks of School Travel,’ (which can be downloaded at http://onlinepubs.trb.org/onlinepubs/sr/sr269.pdf). The committee searched for data to compare the “relative risk” of school buses and transit buses and was not able to find data on student fatalities because, #1, students are not an established subset of transit ridership, and #2, because once a rider has stepped off a transit but, they are no longer counted as being related to the transit bus. If they are struck by the transit bus they are just a pedestrian, not a passenger/pedestrian, and if the rider is hit by another vehicle while crossing the street after alighting, then the transit bus doesn’t even appear on the accident report.
All this said, a strong transit system can play an important role in high school education. (I hesitate to include middle school because that term can include children as young as fourth or fifth grade in some school districts.) If education at these levels could be easily partitioned into activities that started at 8 am and ended at 2:30 pm (you can pick any other am or pm times) then our yellow buses could meet the needs of these students handily. Unfortunately there are some before school activities; many days when testing schedules or other special activities mean students don’t need to be at school first thing in the morning; and many, many activities after the school day ends. If these older students get to and from school with a transit pass they can use at any time an activity is scheduled, they have the opportunity to participate in these activities. If their parents don’t have a car and the late buses have been cut (which is often the first service on the budget chopping block) then involvement in non-curricular activities becomes a choice between non-participation and riding with teens (something so dangerous that a comparison between school bus and transit bus safety becomes superfluous). These “extra” activities are what keep some students in school and what other students use to show themselves as being “well-rounded” in college applications.
If transit bus transportation is chosen for middle and high school students, then ridership safety must be taught just as intensely as we teach school bus safety to our yellow bus students. The additional benefit to teaching transit bus safety is that it is a skill that the students can use their entire lifetime. The one-size-fits all yellow bus arrival and departure times may provide the safest form of surface transportation, but it does not support the schedules and needs of our students. Unless we can develop the flexibility to meet our students’ transportation needs, unless we can find a way to make yellow buses appear relevant to them, then we will not be the transportation of choice for students or for educators – not for the financial reasons that began this discussion, but because transit’s flexibility is the only way to deal with the increasingly diverse aspects of secondary school education that include schools of choice, homeless children, community service, online courses, courses on college campuses, work study, internships, and GED programs to name a few along with traditional after school programs and athletics.

 re: Thoughts on transit replacing yellow buses

left by Barry Brooks at 10/15/2012 9:20 AM
Transit buses may offer cost savings but the first time a student is killed or injuried by another passenger then the media will be asking questions on the safety of having students with the general public. This is a safety issue that is put aside due to cost savings. It contradicts the concept that school buses are the safest method of transportation for students. And yes, my district uses transit buses for transportation.

# re: Thoughts on transit replacing yellow buses

left by jkraemer at 10/15/2012 10:39 AM
This article by Kelly Kelly Roher is well written, demonstrates no bias, and end's up rather confusing because it is difficult to wrap ones' brain around this article's generalizing of two possible 'to and from school’ transportation services. The data is unreliable, and so much depends on the ages of the children, the specific community, the specific school district, the specific services involved, and sometimes a specific bus route. It can sometimes help when an author's bias is clear to the reader. My bias usually favors a school run bus service to and from school for many reasons, and replacing public school administrations and transportation management as a method that may save more money than contracting out. The response from to the article from Ted Finlayson-Schueler can find very useful as well, the bias probably self-evident. He refers to the NTSB, an agency I hold high trust in their findings, where that have very little trust in whatever the NHTSA presents in their findings concerning the school buses. Both the article and the response from Finlayson-Schueler is worth reading, in my opinion.

 re: Thoughts on transit replacing yellow buses

left by Doug Geller at 10/15/2012 10:42 AM
We currently use transit bus services selectively for McKinney Vento Law Project HOPE students and for parent transport accompanying their elementary aged students to/from origin choice schools; and for certain alternative credit retrieval program students attending at varying hours. The need to provide service to origin schools which are nowhere near regular route patterns saves millions of dollars annually in cost avoidance. These transit bus passes are by special agreed contract rates at approximately half the cost of regular rates. There are also special rates offered to students at various secondary school sites for otherwise ineligible riders (those residing less than the 2 mile transportation boundaries or attending classes at early or late bells which are not supported by our yellow buses. We do see a potential that an ultimate goal could be to compete for regular session services but the collaboration between the controlling authorities has been mutually beneficial and not at cross purposes. Unfortunately, we have seen some slippage in coverage as the agency did reduce route coverage in areas where there was low ridership. We have been creative in resolving such cases (mix of commercial and yellow buses, use of magnet routes, parental allowance or reassignment to local area schools (infeasibility). These last three being rare cases. So far, so good.

 re: Thoughts on transit replacing yellow buses

left by Charlie Hood at 10/15/2012 11:14 AM
Kelly, thanks for raising this huge topic. It should be a more important part of our national conversation. As local and state school budgets continue to be reduced, public transit is seen as a more and more viable option, at least in urban areas where it’s available. In Florida, only 24% of our public charter school students receive a yellow school bus ride, versus 38% of overall public school students who ride in school buses. Yet, many charter school students (over 5,000 statewide) use public transit. School buses and their operators have safety as their primary purpose. I'd love to see every student who needs vehicular transportation have access to "big yeller." I'd also love to see objective cost comparisons (that, to my knowledge, don't exist) of public transit and yellow school bus transportation. As long as one mode (public transit) receives significant federal subsidies, while the other receives minimal federal support, school systems will continue to view public transit as an attractive option. Simply put, an LEA’s or charter school’s out of pocket cost for an annual public transit pass is often cheaper than providing yellow school bus service. Whether the overall cost of public transit to taxpayers, federal and state, is higher, often matters little to a school system looking for ways to cut their local cost. It’s our job to ensure that the decisions are well-informed. The public and policy makers must understand the safety and other benefits that our particular mode of transportation provides. Viewed as a big picture, national issue, we should be crossing modal boundaries to discuss these issues. How students should get to school over the coming decades is something we should be discussing with all the parners at the table--the yellow school bus community (contracted and public), public transit, Congress, and the various administrations of USDOT (primarily FTA and NHTSA). If we were starting from scratch to design our country's system of transporting the public, including school students, for whom we must continue to maintain the highest standard of safety, what would it look like?

# re: Thoughts on transit replacing yellow buses

left by jkraemer at 10/15/2012 11:37 AM
Presuming I'm also included when asked this question, "If we were starting from scratch to design our country's system of transporting the public, including school students, for whom we must continue to maintain the highest standard of safety, what would it look like?" -- Well, if you start over from scratch with the same agencies, lobbyists, special self-interests, school and government officials and politicians (and include the many more now than in the beginning), the groups that got our industry in to the mess it is now, I would have to respond ... worse off than before.

# re: Thoughts on transit replacing yellow buses

left by Dr. Ray Turner at 10/15/2012 1:33 PM
1. Congress has determined through the Federal Transit Administration that student transit routes for students only will not be reimbursed and in other ways not supported by federal funds. This precludes local transit providers to designate any bus route as "student route" or "School XYZ route" for all or part of the route service day.
2. While elementary students are probably too young to safely ride independently on transit service as a general rule most of the middle school students and all of the senior high school students should be provided this opportunity. This transit riding skill set is one that can be taught and modelled by the parents and by older siblings as well as the general public using transit.
3, Transit operators (drivers) are not trained to meet the safety needs of all passengers on a crowded bus during high-density service times.
4. AM routes that overlap with school arrival would be problematic on many routes with standing room only for all riders. No child is standing during school bus route service.
6. Operators rotate driving the same bus route which precludes them from understanding what students are riding with them. There may be no personal knowledge of student passengers by any transit bus driver.
7. There is no double-standard of rules for students and adults in transit. The students must comply with adult rules or be removed from the bus. Any students with behavioral disorders on their school bus route will be removed and/or arrested by police on transit routes where they are considered by FEMA to be a security threat and must be reported.
8. Students with disabilities who require special needs transportation do have the option of public transit. Many should have a goal of transition to transit bus service as a part of their IEP beginning in their 16th year as specified in the IDEA.
9. Most of the students now on special needs buses from PK to 12 should have their school bus service continued and should not in any way be forced to ride public transit.
10. Student transit bus ridership skills are radically different than school bus ridership safety skills. All students riding school buses who then are moved to transit bus service have the following major differences with which to adapt:
A. School buses load in an orderly fashion compared to the crowded rush to the entryway on transit.
B. Seating on transit buses is not assured. Standing room only service may be the typical transit bus ride experience.
C. Stairwell safety is a critical factor on school buses compared to accessible ramps on transit buses where transit buses have an advantage.
D. Exiting from the school bus requires traffic to stop from both directions when the overhead stop lights are activated and the stop sign deployed. No such safety features are provided on the transit bus.
E. Students cross in front of the school bus while the driver waits for them to arrive safely at the curb across the street. Transit passengers must wait for the bus to leave and they pass behind the bus.
F. Students using transit service are entirely on their own when crossing the street while being unsupervised during loading or unloading.
G. Students on school buses have the compartmentalization safety feature. Now in some states they also have seat belt belt protection. Transit buses are decidedly not engineered to provide comparable passenger crash safety.
H. Larger windows on transit buses allow passenger ejection that has been prevented on school buses during bus rollovers.
I.Ejection from their seat and into the aisle is a more likely scenario for students on transit buses compared to school bus seat row designs that minimize ejection into the aisle.
Overall, I regard the transition to transit-only service for all middle and high school students as a poor decision unless and until the issues indicated above are resolved.

 re: Thoughts on transit replacing yellow buses

left by Larry Carty at 10/16/2012 6:13 AM
I have been considering instituting a transit-style bus system within city limits to reduce the bus traffic. Overall, I think that it would permit me to more effectively utilize my rural drivers and to maybe decrease the overall fleet size. Has anyone had experience with this type of transportation system?

Add A Comment

Title   
Name 
Email (never displayed) 
Url 
Comments   
Please add 7 and 2 and type the answer here: